Is Scotland on the road to independence? | FT financial times

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As the 300-year-old union between Scotland and England strains under the pressures of Brexit and the pandemic, the FT’s Scotland correspondent Mure Dickie takes a road trip to gauge the mood ahead of parliamentary elections. Read more at

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50 comments

Bessie Hillum 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Old Monsieur Flat Cap here drives a Citröen, so we know the FT's politics.

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don crabtree 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

There is a limit to the value of democracy. Emotionally Scottish people may want to feel they are self governing but the economic and practical reality stemming from adopting Sturgeon as leader rather than a Johnson has not been explored.

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LAQII HUANG 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Support the independence of Scotland.Be yourself , Scotland.

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Jill Trevail 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

No chance considering more people voted against SNP than for them.
They're deluded.

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byblis persephone 2.0 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I love watching the Remainers and anti-Brexit Europeans seethe in the comment and in these types of documentaries

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Dave Fisher 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Long Live the GREEN PEAS !!

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Dave Fisher 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Whatever you say…they just changed their name to the "GREEN PEA PARTY"….Now they have a manifesto pledge to remove Scotland from oil production and wipe out thousands of jobs….Well done the GREEN PEA PARTY !! and to all our real Scottish friends… Sorry to hear you are now ruled by the Green Pea's…for sure no one would ever consider voting for vegetables!!! Hang on…. SNP candidates… Hmmm…I think we found where the vegetables come into this…Ha Ha Ha!!

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Winston McChurchill 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Yet another pro independence pageant took place in Glasgow at the weekend.
I didn`t fail to notice that the muster of the eternal outvoted was well down from erstwhile Braveheart days out.
Once again its the minority clamerous, shouty, yahoos making unattainable demands.
We all know the preponderance of Scots repudiate independence.
Scotland will always be an integral and valued part of the United Kingdom.
The Nationalists are forlorn.

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David Currie 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Back to the stoneage folks! scotland will have no money if we break away from England to fund the security of the country unless Sturgeon coughs up the 8 Billion she has stashed away! too many times has the snp watched braveheart and trired to live the dream! get a life you lot! wake up and smell the coffee!

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Dan Boleyn 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I find it funny how all the arguments made against an Indyref2 could’ve been used for Brexit, but are only relevant to undermine an independent Scotland

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Sharad Jain 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Free Scotland.

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J Loki 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I'd say let them choose. But in case independence happens, I'd luv to see the Hadrian Wall marking the border 🤩

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Jim Love 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Yes.

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Pet Mott Property 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Why they can not be a own country?? 5 million people only – easily done. Scotland finally make your own decision (without asking management from London)

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donald stewart 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Scotland voted to stay in Europe and England said no, Scotland followed England like a wee poodle out of Europe, how embarrassing is that?

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donald stewart 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Scotland must now stop waiting at John Bull's table for the scraps to be thrown to it. The time has come for Scots to stand on their own two feet and let go of England's apron strings, join the European Union and become a nation once again and cease being a wee province of England.

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Zagreus 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Short answer: yes.

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Jan Taylor 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I really hope they leave

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Philip Hales 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

brexit has proved beyond all doubt that britain is no sort of democracy . 63% of us didn't vote for brexit but the criminal conservative party pushed it through anyway . Now Scotland and Wales must take their rightful independence and Ireland must be united at last leaving the english police state isolated in it's decline … and good riddance to it . I was born there but recently I've been SO ashamed to be english

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T M 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

UK is deadly not attractive

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Raibeart 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Scotland hasn't voted for a Tory government in over 50 years, but every year they're stuck with one because the English vote for the Tories, and the English outnumber the Scots by about 13 to 1. As long as Scotland remains a part of the UK, it will NEVER get the government that it votes for, and it will never get what is best for Scotland. Scotland voted to remain in the EU. Instead, they got Brexit, thanks to the Tories.

Also, the Tories in WM hold the Scottish people in utter contempt. One need only glance at the poem "Friendly Fire" by James Michie, published when Boris Johnson was editor of The Spectator in 2004. The poem starts with "The Scotch – what a verminous race!", and it only gets worse from there. And if you think that was a long time ago, and things must be better now, one need only look at the current behaviour of the English Tories in WM. If a Scottish MP stands to speak in Parliament, it is quite common for the English Tories to turn their backs and walk out of the room in a repulsive and ill-mannered display of contempt.

What rational Scot would want to be governed by such a collection of hostile foreigners? England has a long history of mistreating its colonies. Just look at India or America. And has any former colony ever asked to be taken back under English rule? I can't think of a single one. Scotland would do much better as an independent country. Will it make mistakes? Almost certainly, but they will be Scottish mistakes, and Scotland has the talent, the resources and the creativity to manage on its own just fine. Alba gu bràth!

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Adolf Hitler 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

YES SCOTLAND SHALL GET THEIR INDEPENDENCE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✌🇩🇪

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Goose Green 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Your leaving one union to join another. How is that independence?

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gregory stafford 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Without the Media where would you be in the 'Positive Capital money Minded' modern minds of let's forget the Workers of the Past & focus on all the 'Badness' connected to all that 'poisonous' emitting 'Toxic' Word Working 'Proletariat' prior to Tech era Stress?

Mainly Office Workers from the Past have Capitalised the 'Respect' today?
Warm less fossil fuel using Countries still having next to nothing are Clear evidence of this 'An Englishman's Homeland' is someone else's 'Refuge' but not north of the Border.
Rab C. Nesbit R.I.P.

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Cake of Many Colors 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Will we be able to inhale the scent of Independence?

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James Bovington 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

If they have any sense they won't want to remain in union with the unwelcoming negatively nostalgic isolationist monolingual xenophobic jingoistic anachronism that is Tory England morphed into the English Workers Party.

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gaz55 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Snp voters make me sick

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Ifan Lynn 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Yes we are

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Dan Bruce De 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Smith what a lovely English name

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Dan Bruce De 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Not quite the Scotts had freedom of movement and moved all over Wales and England and now out number the population of Scotland

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Anders Eriksen 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

On this 64 year "elderly" Dane`s disk still stands a Scots Rifleman, I "Swap`d in" at age 12 on a Scout camp in Rold Skov Jamborre in North Jutland/DK, – manny, – manny years ago, Those young Scotsmen made a huge impression, with there jokes, – friendlyness, – song and sketches at the fire in the evening, – but by good we hate that Backpibe early in the morning.
Whatever your Scots choose – This guy will accept it – Best wishes SCOTLAND

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Drew Campbell 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I expected more in-depth analysis from the FT. This was a nice wee travelogue with a bit of vox pop thrown in. Nice work if you can get it!

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Luka L 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I am from Serbia and this is very similar to Yugoslavia

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Æthelstan First King of the Anglo Saxons 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Please leave Britain and rejoin the EU. Thus swapping the begging bowl at Westminster for the begging bowl at Brussels. Independence? Ha what a joke.

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FallenAngelEnemy 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

No

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Emilio Reyes 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

As an American I know I don't have much of a stand here, but I believe in working for independence if you believe you can do better.

You are under no obligation to bow to a king or a government that forgets to treat you fairly. Security is good…but the ability to make your own security on your own terms…you need to decide whether or not it's worth it.

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OFFtheCHIZANE 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I see a lot of these videos exploring people’s emotions and feelings about what they reckon would be best for Scotland. What I don’t see much is a coherent economic argument for Scottish independence in a post-“Scotland’s Oil” campaign. And this is overlooking a period of uncertainty in which Scotland would likely be a member of neither UK nor EU. Would the Scottish people get a guarantee they could rejoin the EU? Would the conditions of this membership be known ahead of a putative Indyref2? Does it make sense to rail against membership of one trading bloc (UK) in favour of being a member of another, less significant (in terms of Scotland’s trading partners) one (EU)? I would agree that, qualitatively, the current Scottish leadership comes across as more modern and empathetic than any of the recent Tory leaderships in the UK, but like all democratic governments, these are temporary, so is it wise to make permanent changes in reaction to them? In the end, the only arguments I ever see for Scottish independence are emotive ones, which, much like Brexit, seem wholly unwise.

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Telluwide 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

The English, as usual, pulled a fast one on the Scots when they had the independence referendum before the Brexit referendum. That alone should be grounds for independence. As the Yanks have known for centuries, you can never trust the English. They built their empire based on deception and subterfuge….

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Ljiljana Kos 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

You have your history, your culture, your magic country. Go Scotland, be your own again ! Alba gu brath! Love from Zagreb, Croatia

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Andy Irwin 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Any spare ferries and you want indy amongst many other botch ups God help the grand children

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John Smith 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

The way that the Australian trade deal is going and with an independent Scotland it is on the Scottish side of the border safe inside the EU tariff wall will be the only place he will be able to farm!!!!!

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Eka Lee 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Just be independent. Sooo much better to be free and to have your own voice in what you want to do.

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Vortex MDK 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

The drug capital of Europe wants independence… Crack on, literally!

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paul bradbury 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

2021 MAY SCOTTISH ELECTION

Registered voters: (78.35% of Pop) 4,280,785 63% turnout = 2.696,895 persons voted

votes cast for snp 47.7% of vote = 1,286, 419 only 30.05% of Registered voters

votes cast for greens 1.29% of vote = 34, 990 only 0.81% of Registered voters

independence?? 48.36% those that voted and only 30.86% of those eligible to vote

population = 5,463,300 only 24.19% of population.

Where is clear mandate of actual people?? (figures from Scottish ONS).

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Nippy Bridge 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

man, have you guys ever met anyone that disliked Scotland? I haven't at least.

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Slyder Martin 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

There is NO "safety net" with London or the EU. There is only crumbs for the tribute that the Scotts pay. You are in an abusive relationship with these Mobsters. Grow some testicles and move on…..or….continue the beatings and make excuses for your abusers.

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Simon H 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Why not – it’ll be a laugh.

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Vincent Foxall 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

Go Scotland go clear off we will be better off without you.Put a minefield and tower's.Do us all a favour and Go.Glasgow is an Irish city in Scotland.

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Samuel Quillen 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

I certainly understand the desire to be in the EU, but it’s hard to see how anyone who just watched what a mess Brexit was could decide it would be a good idea to have a go at a far more difficult version of that.

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xuyun hu 24/09/2021 - 2:01 Chiều

FREE SCOTLAND

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